Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Death penalty support poll?

I would appreciate input for my own edification about support for the death penalty.

1) Do you currently support the death penalty?

If you answered yes to #1, please answer these theoretical scenarios:

2) Theoretically, if the death penalty were to cost more than life imprisonment, would you still support capital punishment?

If yes:

3) If the death penalty also didn't deter crime, would you still support it?

If yes:

4) If it were also true that the poor and blacks were more likely to be sentenced to death than the wealthy and whites, would you still support it?

If yes, why?
Answers:
I am absolutely against the death penalty in all cases. cantcu posted some of the important arguments against it, and there are more. I suspect you already knew. bases on your question, that there is substantial evidence that the death penalty costs more, has no deterrent effect and is biased against the poor.

Do you also know about the problems with notoriously unreliable eyewitnesses, jailhouse snitches, mistakes and fraud by coroners and investigators and ineffective public defenders?

Ardent supporters of the death penalty need to educate themselves. How would they feel if someone they loved was wrongly convicted? It has happened hundreds of times.
No.
No. The justice system is not perfect and innocent men are sometimes condemned to death.
No I do not for so many reasons the least of which is that the energy is not dead..only the husk. What good is that?
dana,

I, for one, am totally against the death penalty.
I have a dilemma about that. There are some that do deserve it but there are others such as Tookie Williams that did not. If the death penalty did not deter crime I would not support it. And I do think the majority of the sentenced to death are poor or black.
1. Yes
and yes to 2, 3, and 4 also.
Race in and of it self is not the issue. You don't get a pass just because you are Black.
1` Yes
2 Dont believe that
3 I believe it does
4 A crime commited that is bad enough to bring the death penalty is justified. whoever commits it..
1) Yes.

2) Yes. Cost is not the only consideration. Deterrence is another.

3) Yes. You murder someone, you deserve the same.

4) Yes. Absent a showing of prejudice, that statistic is irrelevant. Each case is determined on its own particular set of facts.
I support it in theory, but not in practice.
1) Absolutely Yes
2) Absolutely Yes
3) Absolutely Yes
4) Absolutley Yes

The death penalty is not about race or revenge. It is about justice and safety.
Yes on all counts, however, we would need to figure out why #4 is true and determine if there needed to be changes.
1) YES!
2)It doesn't!
3)It will if it is used!!
4)Why do you have to bring race into it? if you can't do the time, don't do the crime, regardless of race, ethnic background, etc., etc.
What is with the polls. They mean nothing

No, except for psychopaths!

It already does cost more money in appeals! The costs to the state of funding appeals by convicted murderers would more than pay for their permanent incarceration.

The death penalty has not been shown to be effective in the reduction of the homicide rate. There are some indications that executions actually increase the murder rate.

The mentally ill, poor, males, and racial minorities are over-represented among those executed. One pilot study of over 2 dozen convicted criminals on death row found that all had been so seriously abused during childhood that they probably all suffered from brain damage. Women convicted of murder are almost never executed; that is a penalty that is almost entirely reserved for men. A 1986 study in Georgia showed that persons who killed "whites were four times more likely to be sentenced to death than convicted killers of non-whites." 8,9,10 The Texas Civil Rights Project issued a report in 2000-SEP which was critical of the justice system in Texas. They made the following criticisms which could probably apply to most of the states in the U.S. which still execute prisoners: The defense lawyers are often incompetent. Judges sometimes appoint friends or political associates. Other times, no competent lawyer is willing to accept the case because of the poor compensation paid.
District attorney are given "unrestricted discretion" in deciding whether to seek the death penalty. Poor people, and members of minority groups are more likely to be targeted because of prejudice and bigotry.
Jurors who may support the death penalty, but have reservation about its use, are eliminated from jury duty.
Jurors are often not given the option of a life-without-parole sentence in murder cases.
The appeal process has "burdensome, if not impossible, procedures." The process seems designed to speed cases along rather than grant justice.
The rules appear to be in flux: the highest appeals court in the state reversed about one out of every three capital sentences prior to 1995. Since 1995, this has reduced to less than 3%.
The operation of the Board of Pardons and Paroles in Texas is severely flawed. They do not meet as a group to study evidence and discuss a case. Individual members are sent stacks of documents, and make their decisions via telephone or fax.

Many convicted murderers are later found innocent, and have been pardoned. It is impossible to pardon a corpse. In 1987, a study was published by the Stanford Law Review. They found some evidence that suggested that at least 350 people between 1900 and 1985 in America might have been innocent of the crime for which they were convicted, and could have been sentenced to death. 139 "were sentenced to death and as many as 23 were executed."

There go a lot of your MYTHS!
1. Yes- Sometimes life in prison doesn't give the mourning families and those effected by murder consolation. This is the case in particularly gruesome murders or multiple murders.

2. Yes- Would you spend more money on a train if it got you to your destination faster than the less expensive, slower one?

3. Yes- Look at maximum security prisons. They are full of inmates who know they will be there for life, so they continue their streak of violence in prison. Sometimes, these felons CONTINUE to murder people while in jail. Obviously, life behind bars has not had much of a positive effect on them (as if it was supposed to).

4. Yes/No - This is basically how capital punishment works today. It NEEDS to be fixed because this type of passive racism is unacceptable.

I know my first 3 answers are a bit harsh, but they are my opinions, and I stand by them.
Yes
Yes
Yes
yes

Why? Because if the poor and blacks commit the murders, then too bad. I do however think it should not be determined on how good a lawyer you can afford. But then again they usually get acquitted.
No.
(Too bad the people aren't answering your questions correctly; you ask them to assume that the death penalty is more costly, doesn't deter, and that it has a disparate impact on minorities, and whether that would change their mind... they're just saying that your assumptions aren't true, which isn't part of your poll. Sorry that you're not getting good results. HOpe this isn't for a statistics class! Can you say bias??)

3 comments:

  1. Death Penalty Polls - Support Remains Very High
    Dudley Sharp

    When polls correctly ask about capital murders, death penalty support is around 80%.

    Most familiar polls wrongly ask a variation of "Do you support the death penalty for murder?", usually getting replies in the 60-75% range.

    However, in the US, the death penalty is only allowed for those who commit capital murders. Therefore, all polls, which only refer to murders are irrelevant when asking about death penalty support.

    Death penalty support is much deeper and much wider than we are often led to believe.

    Death penalty support for relevant capital (death eligible) murders

    81% of the American people supported the execution of Timothy McVeigh, with only 16% opposed. "(T)his view appears to be the consensus of all major groups in society, including men, women, whites, nonwhites, "liberals" and "conservatives." (Gallup 5/2/01).

    85% of Connecticut respondents voiced support for serial/rapist murderer Michael Ross' "voluntary" execution. (Quinnipiac University Poll, January 12, 2005). This is the best example of a death penalty poll I have seen, regarding how polling results change, based upon the way a question is asked.

    79% support the death penalty for terrorists (Survey USA News Poll #12074, Sponsor: WABC-TV New York, 4/26/2007 New York State poll)

    "78% of (Nebraska's) 3,232 respondents said they supported the death penalty for “heinous crimes.” 16% opposed. ". . . a nearly identical number (76%) said they opposed legislation that would abolish the death penalty. ("Survey Shows Statewide Support for Death Penalty", MPB Public Affairs Poll, 2/14/08)

    73% of Connecticut voters support the death penalty for the two parolees accused of the Cheshire (Ct) home invasion rape/murders of a mother and her two daughters. While 63% of Connecticut voters support the death penalty for murderers, in general, AT THE SAME TIME. ("Connecticut Voters Support Death Penalty 2-1", Quinnipiac University Poll, 11/7/07). NOTE: Support is actually greater than 3 to 1. The poll showed 73% for execution, 23% opposed, for those parolees. It was 63-27% for the general question.

    This, from the French daily Le Monde, December 2006 (1):

    Percentage of respondents in favor of executing Saddam Hussein:
    USA: 82%
    Great Britain: 69%
    France: 58%
    Germany: 53%
    Spain: 51%
    Italy: 46%


    We are led to believe there isn't death penalty support in England or Europe. European governments won't allow executions when their populations support it: they're anti democratic. (2)

    Why is the "error rate" so large between the general murder question and specific, death penalty eligible murders?

    Likely, it is due to several factors:
    (1) the reluctance of some respondents to voice stronger support for the death penalty, unless specific examples of murderers and their crimes are provided. All of the above polls reflect that.;
    (2) the widespread media coverage of anti death penalty claims, without the balance of contradicting those false claims, producing lower general support (The 130 death row "innocents" scam is a perfect example); and
    (3) the absence of that influence from (2) when looking at individual cases, when the public knows the crimes, the guilt of the murderer and absent the anti death penalty bias factor, thus producing much higher specific case support, also reflected in the polls, above.

    Death Penalty Opposition? Look Again.

    contd

    ReplyDelete
  2. contd

    57% of those who say they oppose the death penalty, generally, actually do support it for McVeigh's execution (81% supported the execution of McVeigh, 16% opposed (Gallup 5/02/01), while 65% offer general support for executions for "murder", with 28% opposed (Gallup, 6/10/01). The polls were conducted at nearly the same time.

    40% who say they oppose the death penalty, generally, actually do support it for terrorists. (79% support and 18% oppose the death penalty for terrorists. 67% support and 29% oppose the death penalty for "murder".) (SAME POLL - Survey USA News Poll #12074, Sponsor: WABC-TV New York, 4/26/2007 New York State poll)

    84% of those who, generally, say they oppose the death penalty, in general, actual did support it for Michael Ross. (SAME POLL - 85% say Connecticut serial rapist/murderer Michael Ross should be allowed to waive appeals and be executed. When asked whether they favor or oppose the death penalty, 59% favor - 31% oppose (Quinnipiac University Poll, January 12, 2005).

    Distortion: Death Penalty vs Life Without Parole Polls

    When responding to this question: “If you could choose between the following two approaches, which do you think is the better penalty for murder: the death penalty (or) life imprisonment, with absolutely no possibility of parole?”, Gallup found:

    47% for the death penalty, 48% for life without parole, (Gallup, May 2006).

    Some speculate that this represents lower support for the death penalty. Such improper and inaccurate speculation cannot be justified and is an unethical use of pollsters' opinion.

    First error: Neither respondent group is saying do away with the other sanction or that they oppose the other sanction. What it does mean is that 95% of US citizens support the death penalty and/or life without parole for murderers. It could also mean that 90% of all respondents support both sanctions, particularly when properly using capital murders.

    Second error: This polling question is highly prejudicial, which wrongly influences the answers. This has become commonplace.

    "Absolutely" no possibility of parole (release) doesn't exist.

    What is absolute is that the executive branch can reduce sentences and the legislature can change the laws and make them retroactive, if it benefits the criminal, thereby offering two avenues for parole in "absolutely" no-parole cases.

    Therefore, the polling question offers a false premise which, obviously, distorts the answers. Gallup has been made aware of this for some time.

    Third error: By law and in the context of the death penalty, it cannot be a choice of either only a death sentence or only a life sentence, as Gallup wrongly poses. Constitutionally, the death penalty cannot be mandatory. Therefore, at least two sentencing options must always be provided to jurors in a death penalty eligible case.

    Gallup did not ask this misleading question in 2007 or 2008. I hope they did so because of theses error issues and will not resume it.

    Fourth error: Inexcusably, Gallup wrongly continues to mention the previous results of this highly misleading poll.

    If you are searching for a true life vs death penalty choice, the poll question should be in the context of true death penalty eligible murders, such as:

    For the rape and murder of children do you prefer the punishment options of
    1) Life without parole, excluding, in all cases, the death penalty? or
    2) Giving the jury the option of selecting either the death penalty or life without parole?

    This has the benefit of reflecting reality, as opposed to the distorted fiction of Gallup's (and others') current life sentence vs death penalty polling. The death penalty cannot be a punishment option, without also having life or other options and the death penalty is case specific to capital murders.

    contd

    ReplyDelete
  3. contd

    Conclusion

    Death penalty support is much deeper and much wider than we are often led to believe, with significant percentages of those who say they, generally, oppose the death penalty, actually supporting it when it is a true death eligible crime.

    There is 82% death penalty support in the US, as recently as December 2006. Even one of the most liberal US states, Connecticut, has shown very strong support for specific, death eligible case executions - 85% (2005), 73% (2007).

    95% of US citizens support the death penalty and/or life without parole for murderers. Therefore, we already have the most democratic approach - we give jurors and judges the choice between those two sentences in capital eligible cases.


    (1) The recent results of a poll conducted by Novatris/Harris for the French daily Le Monde on the death penalty shocked the editors and writers at Germany's left-leaning SPIEGEL ONLINE (Dec. 22, 2006). When asked whether they favored the death penalty for Saddam Hussein, a majority of respondents in Germany, France and Spain responded in the affirmative.

    (2)An excellent article, “Death in Venice: Europe’s Death-penalty Elitism", details this anti democratic position (The New Republic, by Joshua Micah Marshall, 7/31/2000). Another situation reflects this same mentality. "(Pres. Mandela says 'no' to reinstating the death penalty in South Africa - Nelson Mandela against death penalty though 93% of public favors it, according to poll. "(JET, 10/14/96). Pres. Mandela explained that ". . . it was necessary to inform the people about other strategies the government was using to combat crime." As if the people didn't understand. South Africa has had some of the highest crime rates in the world in the ten years, since Mandela's comments. "The number of murders committed each year in the country is as high as 47,000, according to Interpol statistics." As of 2006, 72% of South Africans want the death penalty back. ("South Africans Support Death Penalty", 5/14/2006, Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research

    NOTE: Some recent polls

    97%+ of Guatemalans support the death penalty. (telephone survey, newspaper Prensa Libre, 2/14/08), www.latinamericapress.org/article.asp?lanCode=1&artCode=5545

    79% support the resumption of hanging in Jamaica (Bill Johnson Polling for The Gleaner (Jamaica) Newspaper, 1/12-13/08

    Two-thirds of Czechs for death penalty reintroduction - poll CVVM agency conducted in May and released. June 12, 2008, Ceskenoviny.cz/news/

    ReplyDelete